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3.5.13

Wedding Rehearsal!

Our schedule today is for wedding rehearsal at St. Fransiscus Xaverius Church in Kuta.

We have send all the documents needed for the big day, both documents for the church and also for the civil marriage. That really kept us busy! Pak Nyoman from the church was very very helpful and willing to just print out all documents we sent via email. Oh yeah, he totally deserved a little bag of Hollandse stroopwafels ;)

It's something different, this.. wedding rehearsal. The pressure is almost on hahahahha..
But at least we kinda know what to do and where to go.. and we bring some of our stuff to the church already. Pheeew...

Well.. two more days to go! 
Busy. Super excited. Nervous. Panic. Overwhelm. and very very happy :)

Wish us luck! ;)


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30.3.13

Easter and Baptism and Being Catholic

Happy Easter everyone! :)

I suppose most of you are busy with all different kind of Easter stuff and events, egg decorating, or chocolate bunny, or even egg hunt!


Here, we're are rather busy in getting T ready for... his baptism! Yeah, after quite some time following the course on the path to become Catholic (which he's done for me especially), he's got a dispensation from the parish to have three holy sacraments given to him all in one: Baptism, Confirmation, and (first) Communion. Big day, indeed. We're happy that Father Ignatius (the one who gave us our pre-marital counseling) were the one who presented T his sacraments.

Dressed up in white t-shirt and dark blue pantalon, he seemed ready to rumba! We were seated at the front of the front row haha.. He asked me to sit and accompany him throughout the mass. Besides him, there's also another man who had his Confirmation.

Everything went well and smooth. And now he's a legit Catholic :)

One of the reason that he became Catholic is to ease up with the marriage process in Indonesia. In most cases, if the partner is a foreigner, the partner will be the one to "convert" to whatever religions held by the Indonesian spouse. But personally, I myself would love to have a partner that can go together with me to the church.

One step closer to the wedding!!!

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19.2.13

Premarital Counseling: 2nd Meeting

Our initial 2nd meeting was on February 14, but it was cancelled.
Father Ignatius said that he had some papers to do for his seminar, he's busy and needed to reschedule.
Or maybe he was thinking that we're about to celebrate the romance of Valentine's day.

After the opening prayer, Father Ignatius said something we didn't expected. "I think today will be our last meeting for the preparation for your wedding", he said. Let's see, I told myself. Maybe after this meeting, Father would find out that we are lacking in some aspects.. and suddenly we would need to do even more meetings :p

We brought and used the bible this time.

"In our previous meeting, we talked about marriage in many aspects. Today we are going to talk about becoming a family, being parents, and how you want to educate your children", he started.

Instead of having a total serious dictation about this and that from the bible, the "counseling" felt more like an open discussion and biblical story-telling with some history aspects as our sidebar conversation :) It was fun!

Marriage is a relationship. a love relationship as well as sexual relationship.
Before, the aim of marriage is for procreation, creating a new life.
Post-modern families choose not to have children.

To be able to educate your children, first you will need to know it yourself.
Children will copy.



So he gave us some important excerpts from the bible: (I'm gonna use the excerpts from New American Standard Bible here)

1. Genesis


Galatian


Ephesian

Important question: "So, in this modern life, do you think we still need to apply such method?"
The answer is NO. Equality, in every aspects of your marriage and family life.


Luke 10:38-42
Martha and Mary
38 Now as they were traveling along, He entered a village; and a woman named Martha welcomed Him into her home. 39 She had a sister called Mary, who was seated at the Lord’s feet, listening to His word. 40 But Martha was distracted with [a]all her preparations; and she came up to Him and said, “Lord, do You not care that my sister has left me to do all the serving alone? Then tell her to help me.” 41 But the Lord answered and said to her, “Martha, Martha, you are worried and bothered about so many things; 42 but only one thing is necessary, for Mary has chosen the good part, which shall not be taken away from her.”

"Seated at the feet" was how the boys are used to do when they were learning about the Torah with their rabbi teacher.



Matthew 19:1-9
Concerning Divorce
1 When Jesus had finished these words, He departed from Galilee and came into the region of Judea beyond the Jordan; 2 and large crowds followed Him, and He healed them there. 3 Some Pharisees came to Jesus, testing Him and asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason at all?” 4 And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.” 7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give her a certificate of divorce and send her away?” 8 He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”



I (we both) must said that we really enjoyed our meetings with Father Ignatius. That he is such an open-minded person, filled with knowledge, willing to adapt to the changes happens in this modern world, and still without hesitation proclaiming his love and devotion to God. 


For your curious side, here's a glimpse of our first premarital counseling.
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11.2.13

Premarital Counseling: 1st Meeting

In Catholic church, we have this thing called Premarital Counseling (in Bahasa Indonesia: Kursus Persiapan Pernikahan) that every engaged couple need to attend. Here's for the full information about Catholic wedding: step-by-step.

In Indonesia, especially after I compared it to some Catholic friends living outside of Indonesia, the couple will need to at least attend the counseling 3 times. The counseling itself will be a personal one, with a specific priest to guide each couple through.

I found an article in Chicago Tribune that talks about premarital counseling, if that interest you.

In an essence, premarital counseling is made to prepare the couple for the (not-so-easy-and-rainbow-colours-wonderful) marriage. Given the fact that Catholic marriage (as i suppose in essence, every other marriage from other religions) is monogamous, once in a lifetime, or until-death-do-us thing... I suppose the premarital counseling can come in handy.

So after handing in all the required documents, we were assigned to do the counseling with Father Ignatius from the International parish of Peter Canisius (I keep on repeating "Blessed Trinity" parish unconsciously, my old parish in Holland). And today was our first meeting.

We didn't know what to expect. We were just there and be present and be ready. Also with a bible in hand.

The meeting started out (of course) with a prayer.Then the priest started to ask the basic questions of our relationship... "What do you like about your partner?" and "What makes you decide to get married?".

Of course there's no hesitation in answering those questions (especially for him), but for me.. at first it was a bit off a weird thing to do.. to put out my personal feelings and emotions out in the open for someone that I just know. But at last, lovely words came pouring out of my mouth. 

The next thing the priest addressed is about cultural differences, and "Do you have any difficulties about it?". Father Ignatius made a nice point as he said that whatever issue that you have (for example: cultural differences) can be both a meeting point and a breaking point. It will be wonderful if couples/families are willing to address whatever issue they are having and put it on the table so than they can talk about it. Resolve and compromise, instead of tearing each other apart. Well, no marriage and family is perfect. So I suppose the willingness to communicate towards one another is playing a very important role.

... And that's when Father Ignatius told us a story of a couple that he know.
This specific couple "build" 5 pillars for their strong marriage.
1. Communication. 
Put a good dose of 5-10 minutes everyday to talk about your day with one another. And even if you are in a hate-mode to one another.. always try to find a mean of communication (indirectly) to get your message and hot-headed feeling conveyed to your partner.
2. Pray for one another. 
Again, no matter what you're going through, always have the time to pray for one another.
And with the previous two points, it is said that sexual relationship is not merely done because of physical needs, it is also the deepest way to communicate and the peak of love expression towards one another.
3. Put God as the center of the family. 
Self explanatory, if you do the previous two.. I bet God is the center of the family to glue you all.
4. Relate with other families. 
Because you are not suppose to face it all alone. Having other friendly families can be useful when you're having difficulties at home or needing some advice. 
5. Reach out for communities and the church. 
In Catholic, families and marriage are set in a bigger picture: community and church. So.. spend some of your time to serve the community as well as the church.

We also had a sidebar conversation about "life after death". T was a bit concerned about something that somebody said. That when one dies (and supposedly goes to heaven).. you wont see your partner or families or loved ones in a certain way as one had when one lived. That the love of God is enough. 

Then of course T said that heaven sucks then if he wont be feeling the way he's feeling to me now :)) :))

Good thing is, Father Ignatius got a different opinion. And then he shared the (love) story of his own parents, how they got teared apart and then got stronger in loving one another, and that his mother died before his father because of a sickness, and there's no way that his father would seek for a new wife. I could related to the story so much as similar thing happened to my parents.

Thus, love and relationship between two people can go sooo deeeeep that it's just unthinkable to leave your partner.. even if they are no longer lived. 

That was quite an intense first session we had. 
What do you think?
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28.10.12

Catholic Wedding: Step by Step!

This post is based on the information I got from my church in Jakarta. But I suppose basically it's gonna be the same requirements for any other Catholic parish in Indonesia.

1. Kursus Persiapan Perkawinan (KPP) - Premarital Counseling
Kedua calon datang ke Sekretariat Paroki untuk melakukan pendaftaran pernikahan di gereja.
Berikut hal-hal yang harus dilakukan:
- Minta surat pengantar dari Ketua Lingkungan (sesuai domisili masing-masing).
- Apabila berasal dari luar Paroki yang dituju, harus membawa surat pengantar dari Lingkungan masing-masing dan surat pengantar dari Pastor Paroki.
- Mengisi Formulir KPP.
- Membawa fotocopy Surat Baptis (bagi yang Katolik).
- Membawa pas foto masing-masing ukuran 3x4 sebanyak 3 lembar.
- Membayar biaya administrasi KPP: IDR 230,000 (untuk tahun 2012).
*apparently the fee differs among parishes. The parish where I have my premarital counseling asked for IDR 500,000 for stipendium ("gift" for the priest) and IDR 100,000 for administration.

Kursus Persiapan Perkawinan (KPP) berlangsung kira-kira 3 kali pertemuan, dan dapat dilakukan setidaknya 6 bulan sebelum hari perkawinan.

2. Penyelidikan Kanonik
Kedua calon datang ke Sekretariat Paroki untuk melakukan pendaftaran penyelidikan kanonik.
Berikut dokumen-dokumen yang harus disiapkan saat mengisi formulir:
- Surat pengantar dari lingkungan masing-masing (asli).
- Surat Baptis asli yang telah diperbaharui (dalam jangka waktu 6 bulan). Beberapa sumber menyatakan 3 bulan.
- Fotocopy sertifikat  KPP, sertifikat asli harus ditunjukkan.
- Fotocopy Kartu Keluarga Gereja Katolik dari masing-masing lingkungan atau Paroki.
- Fotocopy Akte Kelahiran masing-masing.
- Fotocopy KTP, Paspor (ID) calon mempelai.
- Pas foto berdampingan ukuran 4x6 sebanyak 3 lembar.
- Untuk saksi altar/gereja: Fotocopy KTP, Surat Baptis, Surat Nikah Gereja.

Bagi calon yang belum Katolik/bukan Katolik, diharapkan menghadirkan 2 orang saksi pada saat penyelidikan kanonik untuk menjelaskan status pihak yang bukan Katolik. Saksi adalah orang yang benar-benar mengenal calon mempelai yang bukan Katolik dan bukan anggota keluarga kandungnya, dan melampirkan fotocopy kedua saksi.

Penyelidikan Kanonik harus dilakukan paling lambat 4 minggu sebelum tanggal pernikahan, karena pengumuman pernikahan di gereja dihitung 3x hari minggu.

3. Pemberkatan Pernikahan
Apabila kedua calon mempelai dari luar paroki yang dituju, harus membawa Surat Delegasi/pelimpahan pemberkatan pernikahan dari Pastor setempat (tempat penyelidikan kanonik). 

Dokumen-dokumen lainnya yang behubungan dengan Catatan Sipil dapat dilihat di post "Mixed Marriage in Indonesia - 01".

I hope this post will shed some light to people who will be having a Catholic wedding out there :)

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22.10.12

Catholic Wedding Ceremony in Bali

Another twitch about the venue rise up.

As it is stated in here, here, here, and here..
Apparently it is no longer possible to held a Catholic wedding ceremony in those gorgeous venues and villas of Bali (or anywhere else). You can only have a non-religious celebrant to wed you in your chosen location. Since January 2011, Catholic wedding ceremony can only be held in the Catholic church located in Kuta, Denpasar or Nusa Dua.

Why? I have no idea.

What I do know is that my dream of having an intimate wedding ceremony directly followed with wedding reception all together in one villa is ruined. Boo-Hoo.

Here are the list of Catholic churches in Bali:


Gereja Katolik St. Fransiskus Xaverius
Jl. Kartika Plaza 107, Kuta
Phone: (0361) 751144; 750043
Click here to go to their website.
This is the church that is usually used by international Catholic couple to wed.

Gereja Katolik Maria Bunda Segala Bangsa                                          
Jl. Bukit Kampial, Nusa Dua
Phone: (0361) 774811

Gereja Katolik Roh Kudus 
Babakan, Canggu
Phone: (0361) 7441206

Gereja Katolik St. Paulus
Jl. Danau Batur, Tibubeneng, Kuta Utara
Phone: (0361) 437082

Gereja Katolik St. Yoseph 
Jl. Kepundung No.2, Denpasar
Phone: (0361) 222729

Gereja Katolik Roh Kudus Kathedral
Jl.  Tukad Musi No. 1  Renon, Denpasar
Phone: (0361) 241303

Gereja Katholik Emmanuel
Jl. Sudirman (belakang RSAD Denpasar), Denpasar

Gereja Katolik St. Petrus
Jl. Gunung Batok I/1 Monang Maning
Phone: (0361) 482568

Gereja Katolik St. Maria Ratu Rosari
Jl. Mulawarman No. 92 A, Gianyar
Phone: (0361) 943457

Gereja Katolik Stasi St. Sisilia Klungkung
Jl. Dewi Sartika – Graha St. Sisilia, Klungkung
Phone: (0366) 21596
   
Gereja Katolik St. Fransiskus Asissi 
Jl. Untung Surapati No. 8  Paya, Amlapura
Phone: (0363) 21255

Gereja Katolik St. Theresia
Tangeb - Abianbase - Mengwi - Badung
Phone: (0361) 428134

Gereja Katolik Tritunggal Mahakudus
Tuka – Dalung
Phone: (0361) 439820; 410268

Gereja Katolik St.Maria Ratu 
Gumbrih Perkutatan, Jembrana
Phone: (0365) 43323

Gereja Katolik St. Petrus
Jl. Gatot Subroto No. 1, Negara, Jembrana
Phone: (0365) 41296

Gereja Katolik Hati Kudus Yesus
Jl. Gereja No. 2 Palasari, Ekasari
Phone: (0365) 42201

Gereja Katolik St. Paulus
Jl. Gunung Agung No. 27, Singaraja
Phone: (0362) 22993

Gereja Katolik St. Maria Immaculata
Jl. Singosari No.5A, Tabanan
Phone: (0361) 813165

Which one will you choose to held your wedding ceremony?

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